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Oldschool
05-17-2010, 01:41 PM
By JEFFREY COLLINS and JASON DEAREN, Associated Press Writers Jeffrey Collins And Jason Dearen, Associated Press Writers – 5 mins ago

NEW ORLEANS – BP said Monday it was siphoning more than one-fifth of the oil that has been spewing into the Gulf for almost a month, as worries escalated that the ooze may reach a major ocean current that could carry it through the Florida Keys and up the East Coast.

BP PLC chief operating officer Doug Suttles said Monday on NBC's "Today" that a mile-long tube was funneling a little more than 1,000 barrels — 42,000 gallons — of crude a day from a blown well into a tanker ship. The company and the U.S. Coast Guard have estimated about 5,000 barrels — 210,000 gallons — have been spewing out each day. Engineers finally got the contraption working on Sunday after weeks of failed solutions — however, millions of gallons of oil are already in the Gulf of Mexico.

Crews will slowly ramp up how much oil the tube collects over the next few days. They need to move slowly because they don't want too much frigid seawater entering the pipe, which could combine with gases to form the same ice-like crystals that doomed the previous containment effort.

As engineers worked to get a better handle on the spill, a researcher told The Associated Press that computer models show the oil may have already seeped into a powerful water stream known as the loop current, which could propel it into the Atlantic Ocean. A boat is being sent later this week to collect samples and learn more.

"This can't be passed off as 'it's not going to be a problem,'" said William Hogarth, dean of the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science. "This is a very sensitive area. We are concerned with what happens in the Florida Keys."

BP PLC engineers remotely guiding robot submersibles had worked since Friday to place the tube into a 21-inch pipe nearly a mile below the sea. Crews got it working after several setbacks.

BP failed in several previous attempts to stop the leak, trying in vain to activate emergency valves and lowering a 100-ton container that got clogged with icy crystals. They have used chemicals to disperse the oil. Tar balls have been sporadically washing up on beaches in several states, including Mississippi where at least 60 have been found. But so far, oil has not washed ashore in great quantities.

Hogarth said a computer model shows oil has already entered the loop current, while a second shows the oil is 3 miles from it — still dangerously close. The models are based on weather, ocean current and spill data from the U.S. Navy and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, among other sources.

Hogarth said it's still too early to know what specific amounts of oil will make it to Florida, or what damage it might do to the sensitive Keys or beaches on Florida's Atlantic coast. He said claims by BP that the oil would be less damaging to the Keys after traveling over hundreds of miles from the spill site were not mollifying.

Damage is already done, with the only remaining question being how much more is to come, said Paul Montagna, from the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies at Texas A&M University.

"Obviously the quicker they plug this the better, but they are already having a tremendous effect on the environment," he said. "In the end, we have to figure out how much is actually pouring into the Gulf."

BP had previously said the tube, if successful, was expected to collect most of the oil gushing from the well. Officials still hope to collect most of it when the tube is working at full capacity.

Two setbacks over the weekend illustrate how delicate the effort is. Early Sunday, hours before a steady connection was made, engineers were able to suck a small amount of oil to the tanker, but the tube was dislodged. The previous day, equipment used to insert the tube into the gushing pipe at the ocean floor had to be hauled to the surface for readjustment.

The first chance to choke off the flow for good should come in about a week. Engineers plan to shoot heavy mud into the crippled blowout preventer on top of the well, then permanently entomb the leak in concrete. If that doesn't work, crews also can shoot golf balls and knotted rope into the nooks and crannies of the device to plug it, Wells said.

The final choice to end the leak is a relief well, but it is more than two months from completion.

Top officials in President Barack Obama's administration cautioned that the tube "is not a solution."

"We will not rest until BP permanently seals the wellhead, the spill is cleaned up, and the communities and natural resources of the Gulf Coast are restored and made whole," Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said in a joint statement.

Meanwhile, scientists warned of the effects of the oil that has already leaked into the Gulf. Researchers said miles-long underwater plumes of oil discovered in recent days could poison and suffocate sea life across the food chain, with damage that could endure for a decade or more.

Researchers have found more underwater plumes of oil than they can count from the well, said Samantha Joye, a professor of marine sciences at the University of Georgia.

The hazards of the plume are twofold. Joye said the oil itself can prove toxic to fish, while vast amounts of oxygen are also being sucked from the water by microbes that eat oil. Dispersants used to fight the oil are also food for the microbes, speeding up the oxygen depletion.

"So, first you have oily water that may be toxic to certain organisms and also the oxygen issue, so there are two problems here," said Joye, who's working with the scientists who discovered the plumes in a recent boat expedition. "This can interrupt the food chain at the lowest level, and will trickle up and certainly impact organisms higher. Whales, dolphins and tuna all depend on lower depths to survive."

Oil has been spewing since the rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20, killing 11 people and sinking two days later. The government shortly afterward estimated the spill at 210,000 gallons a day, a figure that has since been questioned by some scientists who fear it could be far more. BP executives have stood by the estimate while acknowledging there's no way to know for sure.

Steve Shepard, who chairs the Gulf Coast group of the Sierra Club in Mississippi, said the solution by BP to siphon some of the oil is "hopefully the beginning of the end of this leak."

He, like others, is worried that much more than the estimate is leaking and that the long-term damage is hard to measure.

"We have a lot to be worried about," he said. "We are in uncharted territory."

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Collins reported from Hammond. Associated Press Writers Michael Kunzelman in New Orleans, Shelia Byrd in Jackson, Miss., and Christine Armario in Miami contributed to this report.

The Brahama Bull
05-17-2010, 08:09 PM
Greedy Oil companies just don't care who or what they hurt the greed pricks.Truth of the matter is they do only what they have to when it comes to safety on the rigs they won;t spend an extra penny id they don't have to.

Dee
05-18-2010, 03:53 AM
No one likes to spend that extra penny or extra time on anything. My dad lost the use of his thumbs because the company didn't want to spend the time to take the safety mechanism off of the ceiling.

The Brahama Bull
05-18-2010, 06:44 AM
What really pissed me off is the oile company in the middle of this when they finally get a real solution to stop the flow of oil will turn around and beg for a bail out from the government.If the government even considers helping them out I saw bullshit to that lets remember a couple years ago the oil companies where crowing about the record profits so they can damn well well use those profits to pay this mess.

Dee
05-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Well yes we all know they could, but then again you have to think. No one ever wants to spend the money they have earned on something that doesn't benefit them. Its ridiculous and heart breaking but theres nothing we can do about it.

Oldschool
05-19-2010, 09:57 AM
Well yes we all know they could, but then again you have to think. No one ever wants to spend the money they have earned on something that doesn't benefit them. Its ridiculous and heart breaking but theres nothing we can do about it.

They have to live with the effects of this too, but I guess unless it directly threatens their way of living at the moment, they think the risk is worth it...

Dee
05-19-2010, 11:15 AM
Well I guess if they were to spend the money to fix this themselves, it would make BP go bankrupt. Thats what I've been hearing, anyway. And of course if that were to happen, we (in the states) would lose A LOT of products. So in the long run, they really need the government's help if we want to keep these things.

Oldschool
05-20-2010, 11:06 AM
It might be best to let that happen [even though sadly a lot of innocent people would be out of jobs, perhaps they could be hired by the government to help with long term clean-up, research, etc], maybe it would force existing companies to rethink their policies, plus it might even encourage alternative energy to be used

update:
Oil's arrival in loop current has Fla. on edge

By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN and GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writers Michael Kunzelman And Greg Bluestein, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 32 mins ago

NEW ORLEANS – An outer edge of the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill has reached a powerful current that could take it to Florida and beyond, according to government scientists.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Wednesday that a small portion of the slick from the blown-out undersea well had entered the so-called loop current, a stream of faster moving water that circulates around the Gulf before bending around Florida and up the Atlantic coast. Its arrival may portend a wider environmental catastrophe affecting the Florida Keys and tourist-dotted beaches along that state's east coast.

Even farther south, U.S. officials were talking to Cuba about how to respond to the spill should it reach the island's northern coast, a U.S. State Department spokesman said.

Florida's state meteorologist said it will be at least another seven days before the oil reaches waters west of the Keys, and state officials sought to reassure visitors that its beaches are still clean and safe. During a news conference, David Halstead, the director of the Florida Division of Emergency Management, showed off a picture of a Coppertone bottle on a beach.

"What's the only oil on the beaches? Suntan oil," Halstead said.

Tar balls found earlier in the Florida Keys were not from the spill, the Coast Guard said Wednesday. Still, at least 6 million gallons have already poured into the Gulf off Louisiana since the April 20 explosion of an offshore oil rig that killed 11 workers and led to the spill, the worst U.S. environmental disaster in decades. The Exxon Valdez tanker spilled 11 million gallons in Alaska in 1989.

Tar balls have washed ashore as far east as Alabama, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal declared Wednesday that heavier oil was now soiling his state's coastal marshes. Earlier waves of the slick had begun as a thin sheen before the thicker stuff starting washing ashore this week.

The governor, inspecting the Mississippi Delta by boat, swept a fishnet through water, holding up a chocolate-thick ooze. The delta region is home to rare birds, mammals and a wide variety of marine life in marshy wildlife refuges and offshore islands.

kong
05-20-2010, 01:20 PM
that was first fear, the gulf stream spreading the oil
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kong
05-20-2010, 01:26 PM
the biggest problem is that BP is not American, and they have a huge number of gas stations and refineries here in America. around my area they are usually the most expensive and the first to raise their prices.............let england bail them out, I am so tired of seeing the USA bail out everyone but their own people.............

Joker
05-20-2010, 02:55 PM
I hope this gets cleaned up soon. This is a very serious problem now and is getting worse as the days go by. The ecological damage this spill has caused is massive and needs to be stopped fast. I am scared of what could happen if this spill were to spread across the planet. Not only could there be massive ecological damage, but if there were a fire to start on the surface, it wouldn't be long before the whole world burned to the ground. I apologize in advance if I sound paranoid but I had a nightmare about this last night and did not sleep well as a result. There better be action taken to contain and clean up this spill fast or... well I really hate to think about that so just use your imagination.

Oldschool
05-21-2010, 11:31 AM
I hope this gets cleaned up soon. This is a very serious problem now and is getting worse as the days go by. The ecological damage this spill has caused is massive and needs to be stopped fast. I am scared of what could happen if this spill were to spread across the planet. Not only could there be massive ecological damage, but if there were a fire to start on the surface, it wouldn't be long before the whole world burned to the ground. I apologize in advance if I sound paranoid but I had a nightmare about this last night and did not sleep well as a result. There better be action taken to contain and clean up this spill fast or... well I really hate to think about that so just use your imagination.


This isn't the only area they do offshore drilling either - imagine if the carelessness that caused this is happening all over the globe? And soon they will be doing offshore drilling in the Arctic too...